I think Christians should be listening to that message. Hollywood wants your money but not your God. I think Christians should also be trying to make good movies about people that reflect biblical values. I dont think we need to confuse people with metaphors and allegories.
Well....considering that I never even considered Narnia to be a "religious" movie, I'm fine with that quote. From what I understand, most of the really profound allegorical concepts in the book were either changed or completely left out of the movie. *rolling eyes*
I do take issue (and have with other movies as well, like The Passion) with churches promoting this movie like it's the be all, end all. So I guess if y'all are saying that that sort of thing needs to stop, then I'm right there with ya.
But if you're saying that we need to not see the movie at ALL because it's not a relgious movie, then I guess I'd ask how is this movie different than any other good movie out there?
That quote is very telling! I wonder what the people who claim it as a great Christian allegory (I'm referring to the movie without regard to the books) think of that quote?
It is obvious to me that the reason she probably said that is because she doesn't want to offend anyone. It isn't popular to make movies with a Christian message and it isn't very pc.
In defense of the "Passion." I had serious issues with it until I actually rented it and saw it. I think too many Protestant denminations gloss over Christ's suffering and his sacrifice and focus only on the ressurection (sp?). Roman Catholics seem to not be able to take Christ off the cross. There seems to be extremes. It is sad that it took a movie for me to focus more on the actual sacrifice that Christ did for me. When I recite the Apostle's Creed and talk about, "Christ suffered under Pontius Pilate," I have a visual picture in my head of what that word "suffering" really was when it came to being crusified. You don't need to see a movie to understand it but it didn't hurt my faith. I think it helped me.
The whole movie wasn't all violence. It also had a very positive portrayal of Mary and how her mother son relationship might have been. In my experience attending many churches, Mary is given a pretty bad rap. I even remember a pastor saying that Mary didn't have a clue that her child was the Son of God.
As far as my problem with someone "playing," the Son of God, the actor had so much makeup on that I didn't really recognize him and it is important to remember that Christ was fully human and fully God.
You don't have to see the movie but I don't think people (like a lot of my Christian friends) should give it such a bad name, especially when they haven't seen it.
Can I ask why we would even expect Disney to make a Christian movie? They have proven time and time again that they do not have a "Christian" agenda. Why would we expect it now? I think anyone going to see the movie should keep in mind that it was not produced by Christians.
I don't see a problem with actors playing Jesus. It is not like we are going to worship that actor and think they are Jesus or that the actor is going to start proclaiming he's Jesus. (Mental disorders aside).
Jesus was fully human and fully God. I really liked the movie. I cried through the first time, because I cry at movies like this, but it made me understand better. The second time I fell asleep. I got no sleep the night before or all that day and my family wanted me to come. So there you go.
I'm there with you, razorbackmama, on people using the pulpit to promote these movies. I don't think that is Biblical or God-honoring.
I just posted this comment because I thought it was interesting. I'm sure it was said to just be a sort of lame blanket statement to not offend anyone, but if this is supposedly such a "religious movie," why is Disney not willing to admit it.
Also, why did Disney go to tremendous lengths to market this to churches and religious groups if they don't even believe it is a religious movie?
Let's not be too anxious to jump on the Disney bandwagon.
Well, I'd be curious to know where he said that, because in fact they're marketing a package to churches in which Narnia is presented as a basis for religious discussions about Christ and the battle between good and evil. This seems like just an example of telling each subgroup what you think they want to hear.
Make up your own mind about this movie, as any other. I suspect you'll disagree with the cited quote -- the allegory is even starker in the visual terms used than in the book itself...
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I think Christians should be listening to that message. Hollywood wants your money but not your God. I think Christians should also be trying to make good movies about people that reflect biblical values. I dont think we need to confuse people with metaphors and allegories.
Well....considering that I never even considered Narnia to be a "religious" movie, I'm fine with that quote. From what I understand, most of the really profound allegorical concepts in the book were either changed or completely left out of the movie. *rolling eyes*
I do take issue (and have with other movies as well, like The Passion) with churches promoting this movie like it's the be all, end all. So I guess if y'all are saying that that sort of thing needs to stop, then I'm right there with ya.
But if you're saying that we need to not see the movie at ALL because it's not a relgious movie, then I guess I'd ask how is this movie different than any other good movie out there?
That quote is very telling! I wonder what the people who claim it as a great Christian allegory (I'm referring to the movie without regard to the books) think of that quote?
Aren't most movies promoting some sort of religion? I guess it depends on your definition of religion... ;)
It is obvious to me that the reason she probably said that is because she doesn't want to offend anyone. It isn't popular to make movies with a Christian message and it isn't very pc.
In defense of the "Passion." I had serious issues with it until I actually rented it and saw it. I think too many Protestant denminations gloss over Christ's suffering and his sacrifice and focus only on the ressurection (sp?). Roman Catholics seem to not be able to take Christ off the cross. There seems to be extremes. It is sad that it took a movie for me to focus more on the actual sacrifice that Christ did for me. When I recite the Apostle's Creed and talk about, "Christ suffered under Pontius Pilate," I have a visual picture in my head of what that word "suffering" really was when it came to being crusified. You don't need to see a movie to understand it but it didn't hurt my faith. I think it helped me.
The whole movie wasn't all violence. It also had a very positive portrayal of Mary and how her mother son relationship might have been. In my experience attending many churches, Mary is given a pretty bad rap. I even remember a pastor saying that Mary didn't have a clue that her child was the Son of God.
As far as my problem with someone "playing," the Son of God, the actor had so much makeup on that I didn't really recognize him and it is important to remember that Christ was fully human and fully God.
You don't have to see the movie but I don't think people (like a lot of my Christian friends) should give it such a bad name, especially when they haven't seen it.
Can I ask why we would even expect Disney to make a Christian movie? They have proven time and time again that they do not have a "Christian" agenda. Why would we expect it now? I think anyone going to see the movie should keep in mind that it was not produced by Christians.
I don't see a problem with actors playing Jesus. It is not like we are going to worship that actor and think they are Jesus or that the actor is going to start proclaiming he's Jesus. (Mental disorders aside).
Jesus was fully human and fully God. I really liked the movie. I cried through the first time, because I cry at movies like this, but it made me understand better. The second time I fell asleep. I got no sleep the night before or all that day and my family wanted me to come. So there you go.
Just to clarify...I have nothing against The Passion AT ALL. I just take issue with all the hype from the pulpit surrounding the movie. ;-)
I'm there with you, razorbackmama, on people using the pulpit to promote these movies. I don't think that is Biblical or God-honoring.
I just posted this comment because I thought it was interesting. I'm sure it was said to just be a sort of lame blanket statement to not offend anyone, but if this is supposedly such a "religious movie," why is Disney not willing to admit it.
Also, why did Disney go to tremendous lengths to market this to churches and religious groups if they don't even believe it is a religious movie?
Let's not be too anxious to jump on the Disney bandwagon.
Well, I'd be curious to know where he said that, because in fact they're marketing a package to churches in which Narnia is presented as a basis for religious discussions about Christ and the battle between good and evil. This seems like just an example of telling each subgroup what you think they want to hear.
Make up your own mind about this movie, as any other. I suspect you'll disagree with the cited quote -- the allegory is even starker in the visual terms used than in the book itself...
Crystal, what kind of movie did they purport to make? How does this quote conclude?
Have you and your husband seen the film yet? I would love to know what YOU think of it, after all this conversation...
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