"Some choices are not legitimate."
I'm not Catholic, but I just approved an ad on my sidebar asking Can Catholics Be Pro-Choice? It was an interesting read (if you read that link, be sure to read the response to Frances Kissling's article here) and I thought some of you all might find it thought-provoking, whether or not you are Catholic. I always love a great debate, even if I'm tremendously biased from the outset!
Speaking of the term "pro-choice," here's a superb quote from The Common Room yesterday:
Speaking of the term "pro-choice," here's a superb quote from The Common Room yesterday:
I believe that 'pro-choice' is a deceptively ambiguous term used primarily because people who hold that position are uncomfortable with defending it. You see, there are many choices in life, but there is really one choice that the 'pro-choice' side is referring to- the choice to abort. People already had the right to choose NOT to abort (in this country- not so in China), the right to choose NOT to engage in activities leading to conception, the right to choose to place a child for adoption...
The only 'choice' truly being argued for in the courts by the 'pro-choice' world is and always has been the choice to abort- because all the other choices already were protected by law. And since I believe that the human child in the womb is just as deserving of legal protection as a human child outside the womb, I cannot really see this as a pro-'choice' issue. Some choices are not legitimate.
posted by Crystal Paine at 2:06 PM
7 Comments:
That link to the Cathloic article was very interesting. Thanks. I loved the Fr's rebuttal.
Hi Crystal -
I am Catholic (Latin Rite). I love the Lord Jesus and I follow the Church's teachings. I do not make up my own beliefs as I go along as some 'Cafeteria Catholics' do. I follow the scriptures, teachings, wisdom and traditions that have been passed down through the millenia in the Church. There are two types of Catholics: either you accept the Church's authority fully or you don't. Case closed.
To keep things brief, I will be blunt. Frances Kissling is well known in Catholic circles as a troublemaker and she loves to 'stir the pot'. As one of the leaders in the Culture of Death, she is connected with groups that are advocates for deeply disordered and immoral behavior - homosexual marriage, acceptance of homosexual behavior, abortion, contraception, loosening of sexual mores, etc etc. She rejects the authority, teachings and wisdom of the Catholic Church. For years she has tried to lead many down a path of feminism, moral relativism and dissedence. If any Catholic sees her - all I can say is flee, and flee FAST.
In her 'article', she cites Fr. Richard McBrien, another well known dissident and moral relativist. Birds of a feather! The media LOVES to go to Ms. Kissling and Fr. McBrien for quotes on Catholic issues because they will spout all sorts of garbage that is counter to what the Church teaches and support their liberal bias. You'll hardly ever hear the press quote someone faithful to the Church - it doesn't suit their purposes.
Fr. Stravinskas' response is spot on. He has her number. Go Father!
Mrs. Callard
I am pro choice. I believe the baby should have the choice whether to be born or aborted. How many the adults walking around would have chosen abortion for themself?
Mrs. Callard,
- excellent comments, thank you.
Fr. McBrien and his gang definately do not speak for we catholics who seek to obey our Lord in every area of life.
As a Catholic, I can assure you that you can NOT be Catholic and pro-choice!! Mrs. Callard is right - Frances Kissling is not a real Catholic. She's what we call a "cafeteria Catholic" - she just picks and chooses what teachings she wants to believe. Not everyone who calls themselves Catholic truly follows church teachings.
I'm going to chime in with the others who saw this article before I did, and say NO, you cannot be Catholic and Pro-Choice! Articles and dissidents of this sort disgust me. Putting your "conscience" before what the Scriptures teach and what the Church affirms! Disgust is not strong enough a word for statements like that.
No, no, NO!
I echo the sentiments of the ladies who posted above me. One must follow the Catholic teachings in order to BE a Catholic. That is NOT a judgement on anyone. However, it certainly is a fact.
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